May 23, By: Kayla Iacovino comments so far. True, of course, until anyone bothered to ask a woman. Why have female fans responded so strongly in this case? Gratuitous Underwear: How did we get here? Kirk accompanies Carol Marcus to a shuttlecraft to discuss sending her to a nearby planetoid to try and diffuse some of these mysterious photon torpedoes aboard the Enterprise. Why exactly is she in her underwear?
The scene was flat out gratuitous. It had no point. There was no reason for her to change clothes. There was no reason for her to change in front of Kirk. There was no reason for her to change in a shuttlecraft with the back door hanging wide open.
The writers threw the scene in for pure, testosterone-driven shock value. Side note: lucky she was wearing her brand new Victoria Secret push-up bra. Even Damon Lindelof himself, co-writer of Into Darkness , publicly apologized for the scene saying over a few tweets:.
We also had Kirk shirtless in underpants in both movies. Do not want to make light of something that some construe has mysogenistic [sic]. Damsels in Distress: Where are all the women? Even in Star Trek we had one hot Orion woman in her undies as well as Uhura changing for us all to see. Why was it okay then but not now? Two reasons: 1. Those scenes were built into the story well i. Those scenes did not detract from their characters.
She undressed with purpose! The Orion girl was undressed because, well, she was getting naughty with Kirk! Those moments had purpose; they made sense. Randomly disrobing in the back of a shuttle craft? Secondly, and most importantly, the Marcus underwear scene detracted from the only truly strong female role in the entire film. Who do we see? A bunch of old white human males with maybe a token woman thrown in.
Cut to our introduction to Carol Wallace aka Carol Marcus. Spock is threatened by. Meanwhile, Uhura does little more than follow Spock around moaning about him having a death wish. Aaaaand, then she threw her clothes at Kirk the first chance she got. Role model no more. On Kronos, Uhura really gets to strut her stuff as the only person able to speak Klingon and decides to go up against a whole swarm of them according to Mr.
Barris, 12 Klingons constitutes a swarm. This for her is a moment of true courage. Much of that courageous character is lost, however, throughout the rest of the film as Uhura is given the primary role of humanizing Spock. Uhura has a moment of courage and strength.
But, I take a pragmatic approach. But, even more than that, we like looking at a beautiful, strong, independent women. We like watching someone who we want to be like, and we like being told that you can be smart and beautiful.
You can also be strong and beautiful, evil and beautiful, gay and beautiful. After the underwear scene, Carol was just dumb and beautiful. What about the men in STID? Should we be outraged? First of all, those diving suits? And besides, we saw both genders in those dive suits.
So, tell me : where are all the women in Star Trek Into Darkness? Are they strong, independent role models for our daughters, or are they just dumb blondes?
I could not have been more wrong. After reading the comments here, I have learned what feminism truly is. For all. I thought the scene played fine — not sexist at all. You see her in her underwear for a grand total of about 2 second. Yes, if by gratuitous you mean unnecessary, then it was gratuitous.
Hardly any cause for all of the hullabaloo, though. Where did McCoy get changed? There was plenty of time for him to get changed and wander over to the shuttle so why Carol was stripping down immediately I have no idea….
Regarding the Starfleet Command meeting, yep, there was maybe one woman in there, which is crazy enough, no non-humans either, which also seems pretty bad. Thank you for writing this, Kayla.
Completely agree with most of your points, to be sure, the Carol underwear scene was absolutely inexcusable, and the fact that Abrams has half-defended it by claiming Kirk shirtless while having a threesome is the equivalent is totally asinine.
Out of 20 people, 5 are definitely women, possibly 7. We know the majority of Enterprise crewmembers the film chooses to focus on are male. This is largely a function of it reflecting TOS which was made in a less gender-equal age , which is somewhat troubling, but I do understand why there is a desire to focus on the same characters that we love from the show. So: WHY not counteract that with making the roundtable scene, say, 12 or 13 women out of 20?
It would have been a strong statement about a gender-equal hopeful future. Power inequity when it comes to gender is a problem we are still trying to deal with today and I would like to think the people who make Star Trek believe the future will be better about it.
They had a pretty easy opportunity to make a simple statement about that and they totally blew it. Wait, strong female characters who also show a bit more skin than might be appropriate? Sounds like Star Trek. I forgot about the scene until now. I like seeing her that way , I am a healthy straight male. That being said, I honest forgot about the scene in the context of the story.
To be fair the scene does not seem to have any relation to the story. There was no logical reason for her to change in front of Kirk in the shuttle craft. I played Star Trek the game there is a room in the shuttle bay where you can change into space suits. Add some real context and maybe your article will be taken seriously, versus as a misleading one. Naturally, he looks. That would make her unprofessional. Great thing to aspire to for women, especially young women……. And TrekMovie has become Daily Mail!
Oh, the outrage! The scandal! And the scene is so shocking, here — here is the picture again! I thought Alice Eve was amazing, sweet, intelligent and beautiful — yes, can I say that, without causing offence?! A fave moment of mine is when she begs her father to stop the attack on the Enterprise only to be beamed, without her consent, away from the people she is trying to protect. This article belittles her, and her character, more than that, now infamous, shot! I agree, This is a non-issue. She was a great character and I loved having her in the movie.
Oh and by the way she is eye candy for sure. I think in that case no one would have had a problem. Admittedly, it lasts for all of 2 seconds, but it was featured so prominently in the trailer that it was obvious what they were going for.
Still, good on Damon for admitting it was a bad decision and promising to keep it in mind in the future. And I do hope Star Trek 3 has women in greater numbers and expanded roles.
I still love the movie though and am not bothered enough by these issues for them to pose a major problem for me. Oh, but I do disagree that Uhura was just there to humanize Spock. But that was my only problem withe Carol Marcus character.